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Pitbull
A good pet
73%
 73%  [ 31 ]
A bad Pet
26%
 26%  [ 11 ]
Total Votes : 42

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Kiaria
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:30 am    
Post subject: The Big Bad Pitbull is not so big and bad as you think
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I want people to hear the truth about Pitbulls. They make great family pets. The ones you hear about on the news was treated badly or chained up.

Why do kids get attacked by pits?
Kids are at eye level with them and if they are scared they might bite. Kids can tease them and the dogs are just playing and they could just get into it too much.

Good pet but not for everyone, not the right pet for your home
Pitbulls love people they just want to be with their humans if someone comes too close the the dogs human they might pose a threat thus they could attack. They just want to be with humans. They make good family pets they love kids that they are used to.

Posted Mon May 23, 2005 7:47 am:

Ooh come on I see that every one is voting but not posting. WHY do you think it is a bad dog. Tell me please


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Ren
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:47 am    
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I think your poll needs more options. A pit bull can be a wonderful pet for the right family. The same pit bull can be a horrible pet for wrong family. Like most breeds, pit bulls have very specific needs and charactistics, and an owner who doesn't understand the origin and nature of the breed is very likely to end up with a serious problem.

I understand what you're trying to say, and for the most part I agree. However saying that the pit bulls that you hear about on the news were treated badly or chained up just isn't always true. Pit bulls who have been abused or chained up have gone on to be wonderful pets, and pit bulls who have had wonderful lives sometimes end up attacking. To imply that only pit bulls that have been abused are going to cause problems may lead an uneducated owner to believe that as long as the dog is raised from a pup and treated right, it won't be aggressive. This isn't true. An adult pit bull is far more stable in that it's personality, it's quirks and eccentricities, are going to be apparent. A puppy is a wild card. It could grow up to be aggressive, but there's no way to know for sure until it's an adult.

It's true that pit bulls are far more likely to be dog aggressive than people aggressive, however not everyone understands the distinction. People are just as likely to assume that a pit bull who is great with people will also be great with dogs as they are to assume the opposite - that a pit bull who is dog aggressive will also be people aggressive. Both are dangerous assumptions.

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Kids are at eye level with them and if they are scared they might bite. Kids can tease them and the dogs are just playing and they could just get into it too much.

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Pitbulls love people they just want to be with their humans if someone comes too close the the dogs human they might pose a threat thus they could attack. They just want to be with humans. They make good family pets they love kids that they are used to.


Both of these statements can be said of any dog, not just pit bulls. Anyone who has dogs and kids needs to be constantly aware that unsupervised dogs + kids is a potential disaster waiting to happen.

[OT: why on why can't I type pit bull correctly? Every single time I typed those two words in this post, it came out put bill the first time Rolling Eyes ]


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Kiaria
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:51 am    
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I get what you are saying about my post. I guess I should of been more willing to write today. Confused Sorry folks. What I'm trying to do is help clear their name.

Posted Mon May 23, 2005 7:52 am:

Ooh by the way I love the pic on your sig Mr. Green
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Susie's Pit Crew
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:55 am    
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It won't let me vote- my computer here at work has some anti-spyware thing that won't let me have any fun!

I think pit bulls make excellent family pets, when handled responsibly. In other words, ditto to what Ren said. *yawn* It's Monday morning and I need coffee...
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Kiaria
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:57 am    
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Susie's Pit Crew wrote:
It won't let me vote- my computer here at work has some anti-spyware thing that won't let me have any fun!

I think pit bulls make excellent family pets, when handled responsibly. In other words, ditto to what Ren said. *yawn* It's Monday morning and I need coffee...


YAY someone else thinks SO TOO! *hug* Razz Laughing Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:57 am    
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I agree with Ren, you need more options. I would put:

Good pet but not for everyone, not the right pet for your home(I wouldn't put bad because JMHO it makes the breed look worse and more misunderstood...)

I picked good pet because I am partial to the breed. I will have one someday, once I do lots of research and when I am ready for one. :D

Posted Mon 05 23, 2005 8:58 am:

Kiaria wrote:
Susie's Pit Crew wrote:
It won't let me vote- my computer here at work has some anti-spyware thing that won't let me have any fun!

I think pit bulls make excellent family pets, when handled responsibly. In other words, ditto to what Ren said. *yawn* It's Monday morning and I need coffee...


YAY someone else thinks SO TOO! *hug* Razz Laughing Very Happy


The polls here haven't worked for a long time here...but you still can view the results. Very Happy

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Ren
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:59 am    
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Kiaria wrote:
I get what you are saying about my post. I guess I should of been more willing to write today. Confused Sorry folks. What I'm trying to do is help clear their name.


I think you'll find that most people here don't believe the negative hype about pit bulls. Many people here own them and love them and respect them, and many of the people here who don't own them, like me, acknowledge that they are great dogs for the right owner.

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Ooh by the way I love the pic on your sig Mr. Green


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psycho_16
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:04 am    
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Pitbulls are not bad they are just treated badly. The way a person treats the pitbull determines how the dog acts. so if you consider a oitbull a bad dog then you should give a good reason. Dogs of every breed can be good or bad it just depends on how the person treats that dog. I like pitbulls because they are just an overall good breed of dog. But thats just my opinion.
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Ren
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:04 am    
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I'd love to have one someday. I think they're awesome dogs and I love their big blocky heads and goofy grins. Very Happy
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Kiaria
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:05 am    
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psycho_16 wrote:
Pitbulls are not bad they are just treated badly. The way a person treats the pitbull determines how the dog acts. so if you consider a oitbull a bad dog then you should give a good reason. Dogs of every breed can be good or bad it just depends on how the person treats that dog. I like pitbulls because they are just an overall good breed of dog. But thats just my opinion.


YAY

Posted Mon May 23, 2005 8:09 am:

and them so sweet they make grins like this Arrow Very Happy and >XD lol
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Ren
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:11 am    
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psycho_16 wrote:
The way a person treats the pitbull determines how the dog acts.


Again, that's not always true. Most pit bulls are dog aggressive to some degree regardless of how they're raised or treated. That doesn't mean that they make bad pets, or that they're all people aggressive, but it's something that a responsible pit bull owner knows and understands.

Posted Mon May 23, 2005 12:17 pm:

Saying that a pit bull isn't going to be dog aggressive is like saying that a dachsund isn't going to dig if given the chance, or that a husky isn't going to run. There are exceptions, but if you get one and rely on the hope that you can train it right, you're very likely going to be disappointed. In the case of a dachshund, the worst that'll happen is you'll have holes in your garden. The worst in a husky is that it'll run away and not come back. But denying the nature of a pit bull means that there's a good chance that another animal is going to get attacked and killed.
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psycho_16
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:22 am    
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Ren wrote:
psycho_16 wrote:
The way a person treats the pitbull determines how the dog acts.


Again, that's not always true. Most pit bulls are dog aggressive to some degree regardless of how they're raised or treated. That doesn't mean that they make bad pets, or that they're all people aggressive, but it's something that a responsible pit bull owner knows and understands.




You are right on some level. Most pitbulls are aggressive toward other dogs, but also most of the time you can train a pitbull to be more friendly around other dogs. It is a complicated subject because there are so many points of view that you can look at it from. A pitbull can be taught to be more friendly around others once they get used to them. This I know first hand, because my cousin has a pitbull that is friendly around anything including a person, cat, or another dog. Its just like dogs getting along with cats, most dogs don't get along with cats but a person can change that.
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Ren
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:45 am    
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I agree that some pit bulls can be trained to be friendly, just like, to use my previous examples, some dachshunds can be trusted not to dig and some huskies can be taught to have reliable recall. But to assume that any pit bull can be trained to be friendly to other animals is very dangerous. I believe it's much safer to assume that a pit bull is going to be dog aggressive that way the owner is prepared for that (very likely) possibility.

It's especially important with pit bulls because of the bad reputation that they have. When a golden retriever or other so called "innocent" breed attacks an animal or person, it's rarely noticed or made public. The dog is often not required to be euthanized and there is never any mention of enforcing Golden Retriever Bans. When a pit bull attacks an animal or person, not only is it plastered all over the news and used as evidence to support Breed Specific Legislation, but the dog is often put to sleep as quickly as possible, even if it was a freak accident that is unlikely to ever happen again. For the sake of the breed itself, I think it's better not to tempt fate. Pit bull owners should assume that the dog is animal aggressive and take the necessary precautions to ensure that the dog is never around other dogs or kids (heck, or other adults!) if not appropriately supervised.

Just my opinion as someone who feels that pit bulls have received a bum rap and as someone who hates the idea of breed specific legislation.
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psycho_16
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:31 pm    
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Ren wrote:
I agree that some pit bulls can be trained to be friendly, just like, to use my previous examples, some dachshunds can be trusted not to dig and some huskies can be taught to have reliable recall. But to assume that any pit bull can be trained to be friendly to other animals is very dangerous. I believe it's much safer to assume that a pit bull is going to be dog aggressive that way the owner is prepared for that (very likely) possibility.

It's especially important with pit bulls because of the bad reputation that they have. When a golden retriever or other so called "innocent" breed attacks an animal or person, it's rarely noticed or made public. The dog is often not required to be euthanized and there is never any mention of enforcing Golden Retriever Bans. When a pit bull attacks an animal or person, not only is it plastered all over the news and used as evidence to support Breed Specific Legislation, but the dog is often put to sleep as quickly as possible, even if it was a freak accident that is unlikely to ever happen again. For the sake of the breed itself, I think it's better not to tempt fate. Pit bull owners should assume that the dog is animal aggressive and take the necessary precautions to ensure that the dog is never around other dogs or kids (heck, or other adults!) if not appropriately supervised.

Just my opinion as someone who feels that pit bulls have received a bum rap and as someone who hates the idea of breed specific legislation.



You do make a very good point. I do have to agree with you, it is better to assume that a pitbull is dog aggressive and to be prepared for it. Also, you are right again that pitbulls do have a bad rep and I don't like how they are judged. Because any breed can be dog aggressive but only dogs like pitbulls and rotweilers are treated differently because of their bad reps. This is something that I don't like. I also hate the idea of a breed specific legislation.
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Inkedgirl35
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 2:58 pm    
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I think you should have more options for your poll. The APBT could be a great dog for some families, but not so great for others. For example, if you have other pets, it should also NEVER be assumed that the APBT will get along with other same sex dogs. Some APBT's will be fine, but they should ALWAYS be supervised when around other dogs.

Most people hear pitbull and it brings to mind man eating dogs. We have a 6 month old pitty girl and when my parents (actually everyone else too) heard that we got a pitbull, they were terrified saying things like, "those are terrible, mean, dogs" and "why would you want a dog like that?!" Anyone who has an APBT and is a responsible pet guardian, knows that the APBT is a loving, loyal, intelligent dog. The media ONLY adds to the "bad dog view" and prints only the bad stories. They never print the stories about pitbulls being therapy dogs and visiting hospitals. It is a shame that they have gotten such a bad rap!!
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