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Would you own a pitbull?
YES
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No
46%
 46%  [ 19 ]
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TopesAndLex
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 10:31 am    
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....PEOPLE!!!

Im at work looking up information about pitbulls and somebody walks up behind me and starts talking --I have a Potty Mouth-- about the breed... Im so irritated with him.. he starts talking bad about them and i look at him stupid. and he stops .. o you have one.. No but im getting one!!retard. and then he goes on ...wait till he bites your childs arm off, they snap dont get one saying that you cant take food away from them they will bite your hand off if you pull there tail they will bite...blah blah..see now u understand ..shows how much he knows.

Its all in how you raise your dog!!!and i just went off!!! I have a mix pit/lab now ..but still i have worked with them holding food taking food reaching in there food bowl.. touching them , grooming .. you teach your dog and there arnt going to be problems. my dogs now are not food agressive at all or humane or child agressive.
i just told him its all how you raise them..
im so mad! And anyways him arguing with me isnt going to make me change my mind..
just wait till i get this pup and its loving and sweet and THE BEST DOG HES EVER SEEN! uhg!! just had to vent

and now it shows..the careless people who own pitbulls..give them the bad reputation..
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MomToAzoo
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:46 am    
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I wouldnt get one because I have small children. I know its all in the way you train them but if you dont know if they are from good breeding lines then that can cause aggressiveness. Im not willing to take that chance with my children. Maybe once they are over 15 yrs old I would consider it. I think pitbulls are cute Smile How do you know the one you are getting is from good breeding lines? A lot of the people on here worry about little kids hurting small dogs but dont think about how dangerous it is to have a large dog with a small child. Not ALL large dogs are bad with kids just like not ALL small kids are bad with small dogs.

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Posted Fri May 13, 2005 8:50 am:

By the way, Why did you post this 3 different times? Its hard to see how everyone voted Wink

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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:08 pm    
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I get an error message when I try to respond to the poll. It won't take my vote.

However, my answer is probably no. However, there are lots of other breeds that I don't want to own, either, so it's not just about the pit bull's bad rap.

I like to have people over, and take a dog places without worrying about how the dog will react to the people or other dogs, or the people to the dog. My mixed breed dog is very shy with people she doesn't know, and I find it a real pain, although I've worked quite a bit on socializing her.
Also, I have three cats, and I have to consider whether any dog I bring in will get along with the cats.

That being said, we've had a couple of pit bulls at our shelter that I loved dearly. I don't want a toy poodle, a chihuahua, or a border collie either, so I hope I haven't offended the pit bull lovers.
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Susie's Pit Crew
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:20 pm    
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It won't let me vote either, but my answer is Yes! Yes! Yes!

I have rescued and fostered many pit bulls, as well as having my own, and have found all of them to be excellent, intelligent, eager to please dogs. I don't think twice about bringing them around small children, provided the child understands that larger dogs can knock them down if they aren't careful. I have NO fear of human aggression (this includes aggression towards kids) with this breed, and dog agression (which only a few of my fosters have exhibited) is manageable as long as the dog has been trained and is under the control of a responsible owner at all times. I find them a joy to share my life with and the recent turn of events in Denver terrifies me. If they implemented a similar law in my County, I would move to the moon before surrendering my innocent babies.
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TopesAndLex
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:44 pm    
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lol sorry for 3 times..i had problems i think its the poll think so i kept hitting the button..can i erase the others?


see i dont have children..and probably wont for another 10 yrs..but still i will have to socialize this pup with other children..i hope people will let me..
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reena
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:45 pm    
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TopesAndLex wrote:

Its all in how you raise your dog!!!and i just went off!!! I have a mix pit/lab now ..but still i have worked with them holding food taking food reaching in there food bowl.. touching them , grooming .. you teach your dog and there arnt going to be problems. my dogs now are not food agressive at all or humane or child agressive.


Unfortunately it ISN'T all in how your raise your dog. I have a 4 month old border collie mix who tested as a food bowl guarder at 8 weeks of age. I have been working, and working, and working with him, but I don't anticipate that the guarding behavior will be worked through for another couple of months. Resource guarding is thought to have a genetic component to it.

I don't think that genetics automatically makes pits bad dogs. And here at the shelter where I work we don't see any more pits guarding resources than any other breed. And of course raising ANY dog to accept handling and doing a good job socializing will have a hugely positive impact on how that dog turns out as an adult. But you can do all the right things with some dogs, and still have problems with aggression -- because the genetic component for aggression is so strong.

I most likely would not ever get a pit bull. Not because I think that they are bad dogs, or that the people in my life would be endangered. But because I love going to the dog park and doing a lot of other activities with my dogs that involve close contact with other dogs. And I've seen way too may pit bulls that were properly socialized to other dogs as puppies become dog aggressive once they reached maturity.

I do agree that the general public has some huge misconceptions about pit bulls. They can make very good family dogs if they are bred to have the temperament they are supposed to have.
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rcohen
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:57 pm    
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I was bitten by a neighbors pit bull and but even then i knew it had more to do with how the dog was raised (well, abused actually)...not all pits are horrible animals Sad

that said i am wary about the breed, for example...my mom called last night and told me about a family friend who has an extremely well trained 5yr old pitbull, (her kids are older, 17 & 23 so its her baby)...the lady's sister and her young kids were over on Wed. and the kids started shrieking and running around playing and out of nowhere the dog bit one of the kids on the leg...they are all in total shock, this dog was raised with kids and had never shown any signs of agression before...and wasnt showing any while the kids were playing... & he went right back to being sweet afterwards?!? (she had a behaviorist/trainer over yesterday & today to help figure out what she needs to do to prevent this from happening again)

i know any breed of dog can attack but I've known so many people who have/had a similar experience to the one above - what is it within the breed ( if anything ) that causes such a switch in behavior?
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Susie's Pit Crew
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:08 pm    
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the lady's sister and her young kids were over on Wed. and the kids started shrieking and running around playing and out of nowhere the dog bit one of the kids on the leg...


The dog was probably startled by the children, although that is not an excuse for a bite, however I think it's important to educate children about how to behave around dogs, and running, shrieking, and roughhousing in general are activities that my nieces and nephews know are reserved for outdoors only, and not while my dogs are present. Any breed of dog can become wary of wild children. I was bitten by my Grandma's toy poodle when I was spazzing out as a kid, and that is how I learned my lesson.
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lovelastalways
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:38 pm    
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I wouldn't own a pitbull.Simply because i probably wouldn't be able to handle the breed.I would have to be very carefull with a pitbull.I always thought it was how you raise the pup,but i guess not.If its not in how you raise it,then what?I know other dog breeds that i've heard to not be so good around children.Mostly small dogs,that i've heard about.That other people have had experiences with.But its not always the childs fault,even when outside the dog could still have bitten one of them.I know that Chows tend to be very jealous,when it comes to children.My friend had adopted a 5 year old Chow.One of the kids(9 years old) tripped over the carpet and fell.The dog quickly came at her,and tried to bite her.When the owner would go to the bathroom,the dog would gaurd the door.These kids were afraid to even walk pass the dog in the kitchen.Im not in touch with the family anymore,but my point is its not always the kids fault.I've been around more Chows then Pits in my life time.I wouldn't ever adopted a Chow to a family with Children.They are natural protectors,and are a one dog person.Some Chows have a hard time when they are given up,because they favor one person in the family.Some Chows are very good with children.This Chow i knew was very agressive towards any stranger.When its owner died,it was left to be cared for by another family member.The dog became very friendly,it would still bark when it saw a stranger.But it would back back if you walked up to it.This dog was a senior.

I like pitbulls,but anyone who adopts one should be aware of the breed.Actually any person that adopts a dog should be aware of any type of breed.Can it be possible that sometimes the temperment of a pup is based on their parents?Its true that not al Pitbulls are aggressive.I met a pitbull that would hide under the table when strangers would come into the house.But knowledge on a breed is always useful.Good Luck on getting a Pit.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:40 pm    
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I'm not sure how to vote in the poll. I wouldn't mind owning a pit bull, but I know that I always want to have at least 1 cat with me until the day I die, so if I find a pit bull thats good with cats, I would consider it. If something should come up that keeps me from having cats, then I would probably try to find one.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:01 pm    
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Aussie, Laney does well with cats and I know other PBs who do too.. i think it just depends on the dog.

I vote YES since I already do have a pit bull. I am NOT worried at all about her being aggressive toward people or children. In fact I would trust her more with the children I know than I would our poodle, of course no dog should ever be left alone with small children. So far Laney is not aggressive toward other dogs (but our border terrier Schatzie is). However, Laney is only 1.5 yrs old and I am prepared for her to become dog aggressive as she matures. I hope it doesn't happen, but if it does I will be able to handle it.
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Susie's Pit Crew
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 4:45 pm    
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Zeke (avatar pup) is 3-and-a-half and he LOVES cats. He will make a point of curling up right next to them on the couch for a nap, and they do the same with him. My current foster isn't lovey-dovey like Zeke, but he isn't aggressive either. However, that could change as he matures. Cat-testing is easy enough to do, so at least you know what you're getting into.
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rcohen
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 4:55 pm    
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the posts from pit bull owners have a common theme...he/she isnt agressive but that could change as he/she matures...doesnt that uncertainty worry you?

i dont hear other breed owners saying, my golden is nice now but might turn agressive...not to say a golden cant...but to me that means that it is somewhat likely in pit bulls since it is mentioned fairly often...

if their personality is so uncertain and so (potentially) apt to change how can anyone with one be sure that they might not have a dangerous dog on their hands??
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TopesAndLex
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 5:15 pm    
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Im sure any dog over time could get agressive. sometimes i worrie about mine.. you just dont know. im sure it happens with other breeds but just not enough...

I probably would get pissed off if i was an animal and couldnt speak..
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Susie's Pit Crew
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 5:22 pm    
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In my experience, an increase in agressiveness toward other animals (must stress: NOT human agression- EVER) is uncommon. The dog-agressive fosters I have had were that way when rescued, were properly introduced to the other dogs in my household and got along fine with but were never left alone unsupervised with the other dogs. But, it is possible, just as with other breeds, that as they become sexually mature they may become more territorial or protective.

I think the reason dog agression is so often mentioned with Pits is that, for one, they were originally bred to be fighting dogs. Pits get so much bad press simply because they are the "hot button" right now, that even if another dog were to start a fight, the pit would be blamed. Therefore Pit owners need to be extra careful and responsible in the handling of our dogs to avoid these kinds of situations. It is an important part of Pit Bull ownership and one that should never be ignored.
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