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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: training NOT to bark

I have been working with my dogs barking issues for a while now. I can get him to stop barking when he starts, or not to bark if it starts with a low growl. How do I get him NOT to start barking when he hears a noise? Right now I am using a static shock collar, but have been looking into get a spray collar.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject:

That is one thing I cannot teach our dog. I have never had a problem with any other dog. I realise I am probably the problem, but it goes something like this

Bark bark bark

Quiet.

.....

Bark bark bark

Quiet

Bark

Quiiiiiietttt

bark

Sorry not much help, but I thought maybe you would feel better knowing you are not alone. Laughing

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject:

Barking is kind of a normal behavior for dogs, so it would be hard to train it out, really. It's true that some are more reactive barkers than others.

I guess I would start by desensitizing him to what triggers his barking. But I am not sure you could teach him to never bark. Have you thought about consulting a behaviorist for help with this?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject:

I am glad dogs barking does not cause my dog to bark. There is a guy in the neighborhood with outdoor only hounds and they go pretty much 24/7. I can't hear them unless I am outside, but I feel for their next door neighbors. Although barking is natural, I think in this day and age with many people living so close together in homes or apartments it can be important to try to get a handle on it.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject:

I would watch for what triggers him to bark and let him know not to even think of barking. It will be difficult to tune in to at first but you become aware of what is going on. I can hear UPS headed down the street before my dog. She knows not to even make a sound but it took a while.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject:

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject:

I would try teaching the dog to do things that are incompatible with barking when the problem stimulus is presented. So if the stimulus is another dog across the street that starts the barking, you teach your dog to get in a sit or a down, and work toward it being a sit or down with no barking or fidgeting at all. That's how I got my dog to stop barking when people come to the door or she sees a dog or cat across the street through the window.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject:

is this a non-ending all day barking? or just a bark to tell you somethings up? the somethings up barking should not be discouraged, its the only way they have to communicate with us. The non ending barking can be trained out, by a "quiet", or "shush" command, then positive response when they obey. sometimes basic obedience training helps after the shush command too. give them something to work for to be rewarded for.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject:

I can tell you one thing my neighbor does that doesn't work. She yells SHUT UP then hits her dog. I sort of like mine barking when she hears a noise. I have hearing aids and when I'm home by myself I usually don't wear them (batteries are expensive). When Ming, my Shep mix barks, there is usually someone pounding on the door.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject:

It is not a constant all day barking that never stops, but he starts barking constantly and quickly starts a lot. He doesn't need to bark everytime a neighbor comes home. I have trained him to STOP barking when he has started. I am trying to get it NOT to start.

I think a lot of it has to do with his anxiety. He is very fearful of strangers, he is also kind of protective of the family.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject:

I dont know that thats a good thing. He is alerting to people around him. That's actually a good thing. He is watching out for you. Thats what they do. I dont think I, personally, would try to stop that. I would teach a shush or quiet, so when he starts you can make him stop.

This is the only means they have of telling us whats going on. They feel obligated to do that. Its part of their pack rules. They want to protect you.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject:

But what happens when we move or stay in a hotel? He is constantly barking at everything and we might get in trouble. We will be moving soon and staying in a travel trailer for a while.

I am meeting with a new trainer tonight.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject:

most hotels that accept pets expect barking. unless its excessive, its not usually an issue

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject:

I think dogs have many ways of communicating with you and alerting you to something going on. There's nothing wrong with encouraging quiet behavior, especially when the barking is disruptive.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:47 am Post subject:

I think some barking of the nature you describe is to be expected.

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